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		<title>By: Blogger v. Blogger is Getting Old &#124; LAF</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger v. Blogger is Getting Old &#124; LAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] v. Blogger is Getting Old  You know what? Blogging has become too competitive. I wrote about this awhile back on prbreakfastclub.com, but it&#8217;s even more apparent now. The arrogance of some is really hiding the genuine of other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] v. Blogger is Getting Old  You know what? Blogging has become too competitive. I wrote about this awhile back on prbreakfastclub.com, but it&#8217;s even more apparent now. The arrogance of some is really hiding the genuine of other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lindazimmer</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-1546</link>
		<dc:creator>lindazimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You highlight the very interesting tension between learning how to serve one&#039;s clients and one&#039;s own self-interest in establishing one&#039;s self (or agency) in the social media space.   It is the tension between celebrity and recognition - between truly practicing a profession versus making it your identity. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a very, very old-timer (that hurts to say...) in online communication practices it is sometimes very hard in this environment to keep my head down, stay behind the scenes, and not strive to be out front.  Yet that is exactly where my clients need me to be - observing, doing, learning, deconstructing and pushing them from behind.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, because many agencies (and companies) are not yet savvy enough about social media to evaluate and translate true practitioner expertise for their business, they look to the most obvious things they can grasp - followers or level of &quot;celebrity.&quot;   We really can&#039;t blame professionals for wanting to up their likelihood of being hired, promoted or recruited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will sort itself out in time, but I do think the industry has to help professionals sort this out.  Because you are right - PR professionals are supposed to be in the background. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To this point, (I train professionals in social media practices), one of the topics I believe is part of digital or &quot;social media&quot; literacy is understanding the difference between community participation, &quot;fame&quot; (merit) and &quot;celebrity.&quot;   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re all learning as we go.  Thanks for the great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You highlight the very interesting tension between learning how to serve one&#39;s clients and one&#39;s own self-interest in establishing one&#39;s self (or agency) in the social media space.   It is the tension between celebrity and recognition &#8211; between truly practicing a profession versus making it your identity. </p>
<p>As a very, very old-timer (that hurts to say&#8230;) in online communication practices it is sometimes very hard in this environment to keep my head down, stay behind the scenes, and not strive to be out front.  Yet that is exactly where my clients need me to be &#8211; observing, doing, learning, deconstructing and pushing them from behind.  </p>
<p>However, because many agencies (and companies) are not yet savvy enough about social media to evaluate and translate true practitioner expertise for their business, they look to the most obvious things they can grasp &#8211; followers or level of &#8220;celebrity.&#8221;   We really can&#39;t blame professionals for wanting to up their likelihood of being hired, promoted or recruited.</p>
<p>It will sort itself out in time, but I do think the industry has to help professionals sort this out.  Because you are right &#8211; PR professionals are supposed to be in the background. </p>
<p>To this point, (I train professionals in social media practices), one of the topics I believe is part of digital or &#8220;social media&#8221; literacy is understanding the difference between community participation, &#8220;fame&#8221; (merit) and &#8220;celebrity.&#8221;   </p>
<p>We&#39;re all learning as we go.  Thanks for the great post!</p>
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		<title>By: lindazimmer</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>lindazimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You highlight the very interesting tension between learning how to serve one&#039;s clients and one&#039;s own self-interest in establishing one&#039;s self (or agency) in the social media space.   It is the tension between celebrity and recognition - between truly practicing a profession versus making it your identity. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a very, very old-timer (that hurts to say...) in online communication practices it is sometimes very hard in this environment to keep my head down, stay behind the scenes, and not strive to be out front.  Yet that is exactly where my clients need me to be - observing, doing, learning, deconstructing and pushing them from behind.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, because many agencies (and companies) are not yet savvy enough about social media to evaluate and translate true practitioner expertise for their business, they look to the most obvious things they can grasp - followers or level of &quot;celebrity.&quot;   We really can&#039;t blame professionals for wanting to up their likelihood of being hired, promoted or recruited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will sort itself out in time, but I do think the industry has to help professionals sort this out.  Because you are right - PR professionals are supposed to be in the background. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To this point, (I train professionals in social media practices), one of the topics I believe is part of digital or &quot;social media&quot; literacy is understanding the difference between community participation, &quot;fame&quot; (merit) and &quot;celebrity.&quot;   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;re all learning as we go.  Thanks for the great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You highlight the very interesting tension between learning how to serve one&#39;s clients and one&#39;s own self-interest in establishing one&#39;s self (or agency) in the social media space.   It is the tension between celebrity and recognition &#8211; between truly practicing a profession versus making it your identity. </p>
<p>As a very, very old-timer (that hurts to say&#8230;) in online communication practices it is sometimes very hard in this environment to keep my head down, stay behind the scenes, and not strive to be out front.  Yet that is exactly where my clients need me to be &#8211; observing, doing, learning, deconstructing and pushing them from behind.  </p>
<p>However, because many agencies (and companies) are not yet savvy enough about social media to evaluate and translate true practitioner expertise for their business, they look to the most obvious things they can grasp &#8211; followers or level of &#8220;celebrity.&#8221;   We really can&#39;t blame professionals for wanting to up their likelihood of being hired, promoted or recruited.</p>
<p>It will sort itself out in time, but I do think the industry has to help professionals sort this out.  Because you are right &#8211; PR professionals are supposed to be in the background. </p>
<p>To this point, (I train professionals in social media practices), one of the topics I believe is part of digital or &#8220;social media&#8221; literacy is understanding the difference between community participation, &#8220;fame&#8221; (merit) and &#8220;celebrity.&#8221;   </p>
<p>We&#39;re all learning as we go.  Thanks for the great post!</p>
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		<title>By: laurenfernandez</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>laurenfernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the mix and mingle might be the balance? I like that analogy a lot M. It makes sense. I think my question might be about evolution, but we are just going to have to see how it pans out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the mix and mingle might be the balance? I like that analogy a lot M. It makes sense. I think my question might be about evolution, but we are just going to have to see how it pans out.</p>
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		<title>By: laurenfernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurenfernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is always going to have a role as a driver - for some its just stronger than others. The economy is definitely playing a role in the competition, and something we need to be aware of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is always going to have a role as a driver &#8211; for some its just stronger than others. The economy is definitely playing a role in the competition, and something we need to be aware of.</p>
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		<title>By: laurenfernandez</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>laurenfernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing to that article, J! Found it very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing to that article, J! Found it very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: laurenfernandez</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>laurenfernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of people talk about giving instead of receiving, but it can definitely be harder than it looks! Many people have different goals with SM, and if they are accomplishing what they want, why not? At the same time, that balance is going to make you stand out - whether you want to or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people talk about giving instead of receiving, but it can definitely be harder than it looks! Many people have different goals with SM, and if they are accomplishing what they want, why not? At the same time, that balance is going to make you stand out &#8211; whether you want to or not.</p>
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		<title>By: joshuasteck</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>joshuasteck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone read this piece from the New York Times some months back?  Perhaps just a microcosm of the emerging egos in PR but nonetheless...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/business/05pr.html?scp=1&amp;sq=spinning%2520the%2520web&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/business/05pr...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone read this piece from the New York Times some months back?  Perhaps just a microcosm of the emerging egos in PR but nonetheless&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/business/05pr.html?scp=1&#038;sq=spinning%2520the%2520web" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/business/05pr&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: prnicolev</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-2/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>prnicolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Lauren!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I feel the same way. It&#039;s so important to find that balance and build a community, as opposed to continuously shouting at people &quot;look at me&quot;. Of course, we all want to have people following us and reading our blogs, etc...but it&#039;s important to realize that you&#039;re not going to get there without giving to others and promoting others first.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was at a social media conference this weekend, IZEAfest, and just about every presenter talked about the importance of giving (instead of trying to receive all the time) in the social media space. Obviously the people that presented were some major thought leaders in the PR/SM space, so they know what they&#039;re talking about. I just hope that more people listen to those words and follow those guidelines and continue sharing. In addition, hopefully the people that are just all about themselves will dwindle down and we&#039;ll be left with more sense of community!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Lauren!</p>
<p>I feel the same way. It&#39;s so important to find that balance and build a community, as opposed to continuously shouting at people &#8220;look at me&#8221;. Of course, we all want to have people following us and reading our blogs, etc&#8230;but it&#39;s important to realize that you&#39;re not going to get there without giving to others and promoting others first.</p>
<p>I was at a social media conference this weekend, IZEAfest, and just about every presenter talked about the importance of giving (instead of trying to receive all the time) in the social media space. Obviously the people that presented were some major thought leaders in the PR/SM space, so they know what they&#39;re talking about. I just hope that more people listen to those words and follow those guidelines and continue sharing. In addition, hopefully the people that are just all about themselves will dwindle down and we&#39;ll be left with more sense of community!</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Resler</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/07/wheres-the-community/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Resler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog article is dead on!  I suspect that a bad economy makes everybody compete harder for the few dollars that are out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog article is dead on!  I suspect that a bad economy makes everybody compete harder for the few dollars that are out there.</p>
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