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		<title>By: Social media ROI &#171; Jeff Esposito&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>Social media ROI &#171; Jeff Esposito&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] success. It can be anything, from retweets and blog comments. There was an interesting post up on the PR Breakfast Club the other day on this very topic. While the end result of measuring the success lies company to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: keithtrivitt</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>keithtrivitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - Thanks for weighing in and providing all of us with some spirited reasons to get behind social media for companies (as an aside, I definitely agree with your points!). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me counter with this: Do those customers really know that your widget store is there when they want to buy a widget, or do you think they know and/or do they just think you have a really cool social media campaign going?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is: It&#039;s great to build all of these great campaigns and social media outreach programs, but if we&#039;re not doing anything to produce a result both during AND after the fact, what value are we really getting out of it, and how much of a company&#039;s valuable time and resources are we draining? Yes, it&#039;s worth a company&#039;s time to keep current customers and make them happy, but what is your company doing to generate some kind of positive results out of that? And we can measure results however you want: satisfied customers, sales, lead generations, referrals, etc. But if you&#039;re just tweeting and building a Facebook fan page because you think you need to and because your competitor has one, with little to no plan of how to take that engagement and generate some type of positive results and action from it, is it worth the time and effort? Would your customers prefer to be better served via different avenues?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I certainly don&#039;t know the answer, but I do think I tend to lean to your thinking that at the very least, we need to research how our current and future customers want to be engaged to at least keep them intrigued and excited about our brands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; Thanks for weighing in and providing all of us with some spirited reasons to get behind social media for companies (as an aside, I definitely agree with your points!). </p>
<p>Let me counter with this: Do those customers really know that your widget store is there when they want to buy a widget, or do you think they know and/or do they just think you have a really cool social media campaign going?</p>
<p>My point is: It&#39;s great to build all of these great campaigns and social media outreach programs, but if we&#39;re not doing anything to produce a result both during AND after the fact, what value are we really getting out of it, and how much of a company&#39;s valuable time and resources are we draining? Yes, it&#39;s worth a company&#39;s time to keep current customers and make them happy, but what is your company doing to generate some kind of positive results out of that? And we can measure results however you want: satisfied customers, sales, lead generations, referrals, etc. But if you&#39;re just tweeting and building a Facebook fan page because you think you need to and because your competitor has one, with little to no plan of how to take that engagement and generate some type of positive results and action from it, is it worth the time and effort? Would your customers prefer to be better served via different avenues?</p>
<p>I certainly don&#39;t know the answer, but I do think I tend to lean to your thinking that at the very least, we need to research how our current and future customers want to be engaged to at least keep them intrigued and excited about our brands.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schaffer</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent topic, Keith!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a Director of Social Media for a full-service PR company, I definitely have clients wondering about this every day.  Is social media worth it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll answer it this way:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have top-of-mind access?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have a customer spend one second with a warm thought of your brand?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have another outlet that you control the messaging of?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My answer is almost always, yes!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How does that turn into dollars?  Hard to measure.  But if you own a widget store and there are three widget stores in town.  But you have a social media campaign targeting widget users, they&#039;ll know your widget store is there when they have to buy a widget.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if the biggest value of social media is KEEPING your customers, isn&#039;t it worth the time to make sure they don&#039;t buy their widgets at another store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent topic, Keith!</p>
<p>As a Director of Social Media for a full-service PR company, I definitely have clients wondering about this every day.  Is social media worth it?</p>
<p>I&#39;ll answer it this way:</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have top-of-mind access?</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have a customer spend one second with a warm thought of your brand?</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have another outlet that you control the messaging of?</p>
<p>My answer is almost always, yes!</p>
<p>How does that turn into dollars?  Hard to measure.  But if you own a widget store and there are three widget stores in town.  But you have a social media campaign targeting widget users, they&#39;ll know your widget store is there when they have to buy a widget.  </p>
<p>Even if the biggest value of social media is KEEPING your customers, isn&#39;t it worth the time to make sure they don&#39;t buy their widgets at another store?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Ottavio</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Ottavio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Keith! You bring up such an important point about &quot;the immense resources and time that need to be devoted to doing social media right.&quot; Key word: RIGHT. So many can dive into SM and it can go so horribly wrong wasting time, money and possibly creating damage that would have not otherwise happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Keith! You bring up such an important point about &#8220;the immense resources and time that need to be devoted to doing social media right.&#8221; Key word: RIGHT. So many can dive into SM and it can go so horribly wrong wasting time, money and possibly creating damage that would have not otherwise happened.</p>
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		<title>By: keithtrivitt</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>keithtrivitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - Thanks for weighing in and providing all of us with some spirited reasons to get behind social media for companies (as an aside, I definitely agree with your points!). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me counter with this: Do those customers really know that your widget store is there when they want to buy a widget, or do you think they know and/or do they just think you have a really cool social media campaign going?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is: It&#039;s great to build all of these great campaigns and social media outreach programs, but if we&#039;re not doing anything to produce a result both during AND after the fact, what value are we really getting out of it, and how much of a company&#039;s valuable time and resources are we draining? Yes, it&#039;s worth a company&#039;s time to keep current customers and make them happy, but what is your company doing to generate some kind of positive results out of that? And we can measure results however you want: satisfied customers, sales, lead generations, referrals, etc. But if you&#039;re just tweeting and building a Facebook fan page because you think you need to and because your competitor has one, with little to no plan of how to take that engagement and generate some type of positive results and action from it, is it worth the time and effort? Would your customers prefer to be better served via different avenues?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I certainly don&#039;t know the answer, but I do think I tend to lean to your thinking that at the very least, we need to research how our current and future customers want to be engaged to at least keep them intrigued and excited about our brands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; Thanks for weighing in and providing all of us with some spirited reasons to get behind social media for companies (as an aside, I definitely agree with your points!). </p>
<p>Let me counter with this: Do those customers really know that your widget store is there when they want to buy a widget, or do you think they know and/or do they just think you have a really cool social media campaign going?</p>
<p>My point is: It&#39;s great to build all of these great campaigns and social media outreach programs, but if we&#39;re not doing anything to produce a result both during AND after the fact, what value are we really getting out of it, and how much of a company&#39;s valuable time and resources are we draining? Yes, it&#39;s worth a company&#39;s time to keep current customers and make them happy, but what is your company doing to generate some kind of positive results out of that? And we can measure results however you want: satisfied customers, sales, lead generations, referrals, etc. But if you&#39;re just tweeting and building a Facebook fan page because you think you need to and because your competitor has one, with little to no plan of how to take that engagement and generate some type of positive results and action from it, is it worth the time and effort? Would your customers prefer to be better served via different avenues?</p>
<p>I certainly don&#39;t know the answer, but I do think I tend to lean to your thinking that at the very least, we need to research how our current and future customers want to be engaged to at least keep them intrigued and excited about our brands.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schaffer</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent topic, Keith!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a Director of Social Media for a full-service PR company, I definitely have clients wondering about this every day.  Is social media worth it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll answer it this way:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have top-of-mind access?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have a customer spend one second with a warm thought of your brand?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it worth it to have another outlet that you control the messaging of?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My answer is almost always, yes!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How does that turn into dollars?  Hard to measure.  But if you own a widget store and there are three widget stores in town.  But you have a social media campaign targeting widget users, they&#039;ll know your widget store is there when they have to buy a widget.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if the biggest value of social media is KEEPING your customers, isn&#039;t it worth the time to make sure they don&#039;t buy their widgets at another store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent topic, Keith!</p>
<p>As a Director of Social Media for a full-service PR company, I definitely have clients wondering about this every day.  Is social media worth it?</p>
<p>I&#39;ll answer it this way:</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have top-of-mind access?</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have a customer spend one second with a warm thought of your brand?</p>
<p>Is it worth it to have another outlet that you control the messaging of?</p>
<p>My answer is almost always, yes!</p>
<p>How does that turn into dollars?  Hard to measure.  But if you own a widget store and there are three widget stores in town.  But you have a social media campaign targeting widget users, they&#39;ll know your widget store is there when they have to buy a widget.  </p>
<p>Even if the biggest value of social media is KEEPING your customers, isn&#39;t it worth the time to make sure they don&#39;t buy their widgets at another store?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Ottavio</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Ottavio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Keith! You bring up such an important point about &quot;the immense resources and time that need to be devoted to doing social media right.&quot; Key word: RIGHT. So many can dive into SM and it can go so horribly wrong wasting time, money and possibly creating damage that would have not otherwise happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Keith! You bring up such an important point about &#8220;the immense resources and time that need to be devoted to doing social media right.&#8221; Key word: RIGHT. So many can dive into SM and it can go so horribly wrong wasting time, money and possibly creating damage that would have not otherwise happened.</p>
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		<title>By: keithtrivitt</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>keithtrivitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, great question, TJ! Hmm ... need to think about this one for a while. I think I agree with you that all of the rockstar CEOs out there who are heavily - and successfully - engaged in social media took to it themselves. Tony Hsieh of Zappos is probably the most well known of these rockstar CEOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, great question, TJ! Hmm &#8230; need to think about this one for a while. I think I agree with you that all of the rockstar CEOs out there who are heavily &#8211; and successfully &#8211; engaged in social media took to it themselves. Tony Hsieh of Zappos is probably the most well known of these rockstar CEOs.</p>
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		<title>By: keithtrivitt</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>keithtrivitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laney - You laid out those guidelines for how a business SHOULD go about pursuing social media initatives. Take some time. Think about whether this will benefit not only your current and future customers, but also your stakeholders, and ultimately, your entire business. Is this going to build advocates for your business and products? Will this generate new sales or business leads? Will it actually lead to long-term (and certainly, short-term) growth for your business that you can build on? All of those questions have to be asked BEFORE you begin even consider utilizing one of the many social media networks, platforms and communities that businesses can now engage in online. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a tough call as to when we know it&#039;s right to engage our clients in social media. I&#039;m a very big believer in that you can&#039;t just begin a social media plan/strategy for a client because they say they want it or their CEO says they have to be on Twitter and Facebook NOW! In my book, that is not a strategy that will lead to long-term growth and enhancement of the business and of its customer engagement/relations. Tak to all sides. Ask customers of your business if they want your company engaged in social media. Conduct a survey, whether formal or informal, and ask customers, your CEO, your stakeholders, lots of people, whether they want to see your business engaging with them and others in social media, and then - just as importantly - where, if at all. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put: Ask people - your customers, business advocates, vendfors, ect. - what they want in terms of enbgagement from your company. Listen to them, cater to their wants and needs and provide them with the tools, info and resources they need to continue helping to build and advocate for your company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laney &#8211; You laid out those guidelines for how a business SHOULD go about pursuing social media initatives. Take some time. Think about whether this will benefit not only your current and future customers, but also your stakeholders, and ultimately, your entire business. Is this going to build advocates for your business and products? Will this generate new sales or business leads? Will it actually lead to long-term (and certainly, short-term) growth for your business that you can build on? All of those questions have to be asked BEFORE you begin even consider utilizing one of the many social media networks, platforms and communities that businesses can now engage in online. </p>
<p>It&#39;s a tough call as to when we know it&#39;s right to engage our clients in social media. I&#39;m a very big believer in that you can&#39;t just begin a social media plan/strategy for a client because they say they want it or their CEO says they have to be on Twitter and Facebook NOW! In my book, that is not a strategy that will lead to long-term growth and enhancement of the business and of its customer engagement/relations. Tak to all sides. Ask customers of your business if they want your company engaged in social media. Conduct a survey, whether formal or informal, and ask customers, your CEO, your stakeholders, lots of people, whether they want to see your business engaging with them and others in social media, and then &#8211; just as importantly &#8211; where, if at all. </p>
<p>Simply put: Ask people &#8211; your customers, business advocates, vendfors, ect. &#8211; what they want in terms of enbgagement from your company. Listen to them, cater to their wants and needs and provide them with the tools, info and resources they need to continue helping to build and advocate for your company.</p>
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		<title>By: laneyc</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/10/27/sm-growing-biz/comment-page-1/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>laneyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting concept. I wonder if PR agencies will start to specialize in the services they offer. Will one sort of agency cater to companies not wanting to break into SM? I think depending on what the agency wants to get out of their business this could be a dangerous move. At the same time, how do we know when its right to counsel our clients into SM? If your consumer base is really small, SM may not be the right strategy. I think its tailoring and working with the CEO, CMO and the rest to figure out what they want to accomplish and if SM is the right way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting concept. I wonder if PR agencies will start to specialize in the services they offer. Will one sort of agency cater to companies not wanting to break into SM? I think depending on what the agency wants to get out of their business this could be a dangerous move. At the same time, how do we know when its right to counsel our clients into SM? If your consumer base is really small, SM may not be the right strategy. I think its tailoring and working with the CEO, CMO and the rest to figure out what they want to accomplish and if SM is the right way to go.</p>
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