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		<title>By: Your Copy Sucks: In Offense of Ellipses :PRBreakfastClub</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Copy Sucks: In Offense of Ellipses :PRBreakfastClub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] give you exhibit A, from a very recent PRBC blog post! Ok, so to address this first…maybe there is something to the whole women’s intuition [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] give you exhibit A, from a very recent PRBC blog post! Ok, so to address this first…maybe there is something to the whole women’s intuition [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tracybb</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This beginning to sound like my post post about flirting with reporters. I definitely believe male PR folks do better with women reporters and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This beginning to sound like my post post about flirting with reporters. I definitely believe male PR folks do better with women reporters and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fantastic comment.  Thank you Amy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Such an imbalance really can&#039;t serve anyone (except the guys in those offices :) ).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of my strangest run-ins with the male on top (sorry) attitude came when working with the internal PR team of a national organization.  The point person on our end was a highly experienced and skilled woman and we were asked to present our plan to one of their execs.  When we let them know this person would be doing the presenting the answer we got (paraphrased) - &quot;Oh, you can&#039;t present, you&#039;re a woman.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The source of this comment -- the internal PR team -- composed entirely of women.  I nearly drooled on the Polycom it took me so long to pick my chin up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic comment.  Thank you Amy.</p>
<p>Such an imbalance really can&#39;t serve anyone (except the guys in those offices <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>One of my strangest run-ins with the male on top (sorry) attitude came when working with the internal PR team of a national organization.  The point person on our end was a highly experienced and skilled woman and we were asked to present our plan to one of their execs.  When we let them know this person would be doing the presenting the answer we got (paraphrased) &#8211; &#8220;Oh, you can&#39;t present, you&#39;re a woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>The source of this comment &#8212; the internal PR team &#8212; composed entirely of women.  I nearly drooled on the Polycom it took me so long to pick my chin up.</p>
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		<title>By: amymengel</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>amymengel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know y&#039;all are having fun with these two posts, but I think the gender imbalance in the PR profession is a troubling one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, there&#039;s the issue that a few people raised on Kate&#039;s post that while women dominate the lower ranks of PR, many of the top posts are held by men. It is changing, but not fast enough. And women are often still penalized when they &quot;opt out&quot; of the workforce for a period of time to raise kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, many collegiate PR programs are pushing 90 percent women. It was a topic of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amymengel.com/2009/02/where-the-boys-are-hint-in-the-business-school/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one of my first posts&lt;/a&gt; when I started blogging. Where are the guys? They&#039;re in the business school majoring in marketing. Why? Because it&#039;s viewed as a more &quot;serious&quot; endeavor and one that&#039;s more likely to get them a seat at the executive table.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have less of an issue with actual gender imbalance than I do with the portrayals and stereotypes of PR practitioners that can lead to an overall dismissal of the field as inconsequential. Unfortunately, those stereotypes must come from somewhere. If young female PR pros get a &quot;flighty and flirty&quot; reputation, they&#039;re not likely the ones that business partners are going to trust for strategic advice and counsel on important issues. They&#039;re going to get asked to plan parties. And we all know that PR is much more than that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, now that I&#039;ve been a total killjoy, I will add that it&#039;s fun to look at how gender can impact and influence professional relationships, and there certainly are situations where guys and gals can use it to their advantage. But it&#039;s important to remember that if we, as an entire profession, are going to make a &lt;a href=http://www.prsa.org/Intelligence/BusinessCase/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Business Case for PR&lt;/a&gt;, then we need to develop a diverse, balanced industry and all behave in ways that don&#039;t undermine the importance of the work that we do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Okay, done sucking the fun out of the day. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know y&#39;all are having fun with these two posts, but I think the gender imbalance in the PR profession is a troubling one.</p>
<p>First, there&#39;s the issue that a few people raised on Kate&#39;s post that while women dominate the lower ranks of PR, many of the top posts are held by men. It is changing, but not fast enough. And women are often still penalized when they &#8220;opt out&#8221; of the workforce for a period of time to raise kids.</p>
<p>Second, many collegiate PR programs are pushing 90 percent women. It was a topic of <a href="http://www.amymengel.com/2009/02/where-the-boys-are-hint-in-the-business-school/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">one of my first posts</a> when I started blogging. Where are the guys? They&#39;re in the business school majoring in marketing. Why? Because it&#39;s viewed as a more &#8220;serious&#8221; endeavor and one that&#39;s more likely to get them a seat at the executive table.</p>
<p>I have less of an issue with actual gender imbalance than I do with the portrayals and stereotypes of PR practitioners that can lead to an overall dismissal of the field as inconsequential. Unfortunately, those stereotypes must come from somewhere. If young female PR pros get a &#8220;flighty and flirty&#8221; reputation, they&#39;re not likely the ones that business partners are going to trust for strategic advice and counsel on important issues. They&#39;re going to get asked to plan parties. And we all know that PR is much more than that.</p>
<p>So, now that I&#39;ve been a total killjoy, I will add that it&#39;s fun to look at how gender can impact and influence professional relationships, and there certainly are situations where guys and gals can use it to their advantage. But it&#39;s important to remember that if we, as an entire profession, are going to make a <a href=http://www.prsa.org/Intelligence/BusinessCase/ rel="nofollow">Business Case for PR</a>, then we need to develop a diverse, balanced industry and all behave in ways that don&#39;t undermine the importance of the work that we do.</p>
<p>Okay, done sucking the fun out of the day. <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Arik -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Certainly true.  The fresh voice in the room helps ensure we don&#039;t get too caught up in old thinking.  That it&#039;s gender-based this time just makes it more fun.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can also lift furniture more easily.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Haha, yes, I am a bit twitter chatty, but take a peek at how many are replies :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Arik -</p>
<p>Certainly true.  The fresh voice in the room helps ensure we don&#39;t get too caught up in old thinking.  That it&#39;s gender-based this time just makes it more fun.</p>
<p>We can also lift furniture more easily.</p>
<p>Haha, yes, I am a bit twitter chatty, but take a peek at how many are replies <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, bring it :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you dear, it is your post that inspired it, however.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Considerate, smooth, charming - check, check, check ;-) ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, bring it <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thank you dear, it is your post that inspired it, however.</p>
<p>[Considerate, smooth, charming - check, check, check <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, my boyish charm has made you speechless :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, my boyish charm has made you speechless <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice CK, very nice :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And true, women definitely need tending when ill in the office.  They usually don&#039;t like to admit they&#039;re sick though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The post also started to run long, so had to self-edit (I know, what a switch).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice CK, very nice <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And true, women definitely need tending when ill in the office.  They usually don&#39;t like to admit they&#39;re sick though.</p>
<p>The post also started to run long, so had to self-edit (I know, what a switch).</p>
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		<title>By: tracybb</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>tracybb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This beginning to sound like my post post about flirting with reporters. I definitely believe male PR folks do better with women reporters and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This beginning to sound like my post post about flirting with reporters. I definitely believe male PR folks do better with women reporters and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: PR Cog</title>
		<link>http://prbreakfastclub.com/2009/11/11/guys-scarcity/comment-page-1/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fantastic comment.  Thank you Amy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Such an imbalance really can&#039;t serve anyone (except the guys in those offices :) ).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of my strangest run-ins with the male on top (sorry) attitude came when working with the internal PR team of a national organization.  The point person on our end was a highly experienced and skilled woman and we were asked to present our plan to one of their execs.  When we let them know this person would be doing the presenting the answer we got (paraphrased) - &quot;Oh, you can&#039;t present, you&#039;re a woman.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The source of this comment -- the internal PR team -- composed entirely of women.  I nearly drooled on the Polycom it took me so long to pick my chin up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fantastic comment.  Thank you Amy.</p>
<p>Such an imbalance really can&#39;t serve anyone (except the guys in those offices <img src='http://prbreakfastclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>One of my strangest run-ins with the male on top (sorry) attitude came when working with the internal PR team of a national organization.  The point person on our end was a highly experienced and skilled woman and we were asked to present our plan to one of their execs.  When we let them know this person would be doing the presenting the answer we got (paraphrased) &#8211; &#8220;Oh, you can&#39;t present, you&#39;re a woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>The source of this comment &#8212; the internal PR team &#8212; composed entirely of women.  I nearly drooled on the Polycom it took me so long to pick my chin up.</p>
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